I've been looking for a tin lizzie for some time. I have a mid-arm which is OK but it is an older machine and it will only do edge-to-edge with no stitch regulator. So I was just kind of cruising around on the internet the other day and just happened to call a machine company about a frame. Well it turns out they have a used 18" tin lizzie for $2500!! Big problem I don't have all the money but they will let me lay it away and pay it off over time. It will work on my frame, so I will be good to go soon!! Yea. Winter for me is alittle light for money so it might take me til spring but I'm going to work real hard on rounding up some more money and do it!!