I see a pattern developing here...Unless we have electronic upscale machines we will continue to occasionally repeat this problem until we retrain our brains to immediately check the bobbin thread when things are going too well :!: :!: :!: If things are just flying together it should be an immediate signal that there's no bobbin thread. Repeat over and over until it becomes second nature. Then we will have our own built in thread alarms. :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll: