I just finished a quilt. I pinned it down and used an 18" hoop and tied it down with Variegated Perle Cotton Thread. It turned out beautiful. The thread turned out really sweet after I washed and dried it. Very pleased with it. I use the hoop to keep everything drum taut! My family makes fun of me when I refer to anything I want done perfect - "It has to be drum taut." Edie