I use the ones that you pull/push the thread down from the top. I bought a pkg. at my LQS but the last time I was in Walmart I noticed they had them. They were in the very limited fabric section with the other hand needles. I think they were $4.50 for a pkg? I have always used them to bury the thread ends in the quilt sandwich. I just don't like the look of stitching in place.