Wow sounds like a lot of places have issues on this Hops - our LQS had a bus going out last weekend I'm glad I wasn't on it now hearing these stories I'm glad I didn't go now. I'm disabled I can't stand or sit for long periods of time so I'd be in bad shape coming home. I don't understand why the shop owners were so unprepared or unorganized when they know that people are coming for these Hops.