I worked at El's Quilt in a Day store in San Marcos, CA for almost 6 years. Loved working there, but "retired" this year after my husband retired as "work" got in the way of our traveling!!I also avoided making flying geese El's way as I thought it to be labor intensive. Then I was at a QIAD retreat and making one of El's patterns that required flying geese. So I dove in, used her Flying Geese ruler and I have not turned back! Her method is the BEST way to make flying geese and the flying geese come out perfect every time. I have changed other patterns and used her method of making flying geese whenever I can because they are truly worth the extra work!!!