I have a Flynn and it is not so good. It comes with baby size poles and that is about all you can do with it. If you buy longer pvc pipe it will take up more room than a regular quilting machine because you feed the thing thru your machine. Can you imagine a king size all on one side of your machine? And you are balancing the whole thing with your hands. You also have to have a table that is long enough to put the pvc that rolls the frame on, which keeps falling off the table. Its not worth it and when I get the funds will invest in a Gracie frame.