I have tried all the gloves, gardening, rubber tips, rubber gloves, rubber glove finger tips (cut from the gloves) Fons & Porter gloves, but I like Machingers the best. I used the supreme slider for a while and then forgot to put it on the machine and didn't notice a difference with the fmq. I think the best advice I've gotten is to practice, practice, practice, and then practice more. I'm still making progress.