Thanks for the suggestions. I have been eyeing them and trying to figure out what I needed that for, as I was sure I "needed" at least one of these for something! I had seen something on making totes from them. I bought canvas one year and made fire wood carries for friend and family using the webbed flat stapping for the handles that went all the way around for extra support....Turned out really nice and much appreciated. Lowes is always on my list for something!