Thank you for info. I asked the person if I could borrow the machine to try it. Boy does it just purr like a kitten. I definately will have to buy it. I know it is not a young machine but for all the feet that comes with it at todays price they would be in excess of £160 . I have tried it for free quilting and it sews like a dream and is a very clean machine. I have two Pfaff machines and never ever thought I would want to sew on anything else but just goes to show never say never. I wish I could post a photo of it but since the new board I can hardly find photos never mind post one.