Oh Ya'll
I got my book out and started reading( I am one of those that only reads directions when things go wrong! lol)
well any ways I found out the bobbin I was using was too small I needed a bigger one ...I had gotten some premade black and white ones at walmart and they needed to be taller....
so even in quilting...SIZE DOES MATTER!!!! hahaha
thought ya'll would get a kick out of that one :)