I actually live about 40 miles from Sewing Machines Plus and was planning on going there today to check out machines. Thank you so much for your info on the queen quilter. It will be very useful in helping with my decision. I don't understand about the metal conduit pipes. Does the frame not come complete - was this to make it sturdier? Or, did you puchase it without the pipes only due to shipping and figured you could improvise?