I don't have either, but do have a frame and a home stretched machine. You may want to check out the Yahoo group - homequiltingsystems. It has a wealth of information about doing what you are talking about. You can use about any machine on a frame, just know that when you get to the end of the quilt - you will only have about 2" of depth to quilt on. My home stretched machine doesn't have any bells and whistles, but gets the job done.