I've had a Voyager 17 and a Hinterburg stretch frame set-up for 4 yrs. Have been happy with both. Did find that my Voyager doesn't like Aurifil thread for quilting tho, does ok with Connecting Threads tho. The machine is heavy, weight is closer to 50 lbs., so do need two people to get it on and off frame. But you should play around with some at a show and/or dealer before jumping in.