I Have an older gracie frame I bought on craigs list. I love it but I can't get replacement parts, I guess it is just too old. I used my elna envision for a few projects and wasn't happy. I purchased the Juki TL 2000qi and love it!!! I don't have a problem with stitches looking like eyelashes and the machine is sturdy and probably to closest to an industrial machine I have ever owned. I really like the feel of the machine and it is light enough to move smoothly on the tracks. I wish you luck with your purchases, for the money I don't think you can go wrong with the Juki.