yes, I agree, Doak's book/cd are the best way to learn pp. The first time I tried it-at a guild meeting with one of the members showing how, I was so confused--I thought NEVER!!, but after a few years tried again with "Doak at my side" and said WOW. I certainly would not do it for everything......I do use the vellum paper that is made for pp,,,easier to tear away........