Bernie, I am not sure what you are wanting was it a quilting machine to use on a table because of lack of space? I bought a long arm ( sorry, mid-arm quilting machine last year)the frame takes up some space but I can whole-heartly tell you I love my machine.The complete set up was very reasonable and made in America I bought afew things extra, a grace pro frame, up-grade carriage, stitch regulator and some more stuff.The machine starts at 1599.PM me if you would like more info.These machines come in 13,15,and17".Great service and support.