Yes I know. I visit the Goodwill website all too often and see a lot of nice sewing machines. I always check the shipping costs to determine whether or not it is a good bargain or not. The sewing machines I have purchased have come to me very well packed. The only problem I have experienced is that often the carrying cases do not ship well and I sure wish Goodwill would have the knowledge to remove the spool pins or cushion them well before shipping. The spool pins have a way of bending or damaging the top cover of the cases during shipping.