I own the qbot, running it on a Viking 18x8 on imperial frame. I also have the 4D quilt design creator software. I feel it is really an awesome set up!! I can do so much with it. You can also do alot with just the qbot without the software. Alot of designs availabe for the qbot alone. I love my setup!!! Other robots out there but much more $$$$ Good luck with what ever you decide. Enjoy!!!