I am familiar with the new price of this machine and can tell you that you can find a true Long Arm system used for the price of what this machine was selling for in my local area a year ago and still have change left over. If interested in a long arm machine there are several areas on the internet to start looking. I found my system by doing some research on the internet and at quilt shows and then just happened to do a search on Craigslist and found within 50 miles of my home. After finding that one I have learned of at least 3 others locally. They are there you just need to do your homework. If you are interested in a DSM the 820 is a wonderful machine. I loved it but couldn't afford to purchase one. Ann in TN