Thank you guys : ) I love embroidery library! They even give birthday gifts, you gotten love them! Have done business with them forever. I wrote them the other day asking them to start offering cross stitch. Got a freebe from Sutberry and sewed it out this morning. (too cute) It was a snowman. We here in Topeka also had a beautiful snow! I have googled and found all but will go to ann the gran now, forgot about that one. Thanks again. Nice chatting and being with you all : ) You are a great group <3 Have a most wonderful day.....