Janome has new model Horizon 12000 out for around $12K but many have traded in their 11K machines which you shnould be able to get at a good price. I have had the 10K, 10.1K, 11K and now the 12K. They are good. For the 10K the 4x4 and 5x7 are standard hoops, the 11K had the 4x4, and 8x8 standard with 5 x7 available. Look around, lots to pick from. Sturdy machine.