I love, love, love my Elna 8200. Hubby got it for me for Christmas and its the best present ever. I have both 4x4 and 5x7 hoops it uses a card to move designs back and forth so no usb also no auto thread cutter, so far those are only 2 downsides I have found. Hubby got it on sale for $799 I think, Elna's are manufactured by Janome so it uses a .JEF file Good luck on your search.