My husband bought me a software program, but I can't remember the name. We got it from SewForLess.com and it wasn't expensive (under $50). It's on my lap top, not the machine I'm on right now, so can't look at name, but it shows (in the lower margin of the screen) each .pes file so you can see them - otherwise you can't open on a regular computer. I double click on the zip files to unzip and then start placing my cursor over the various files to see which I want to transfer to a 3 1/2" floppy for my embroidery machine. Good luck.