Ok last post. Of course my husband knows about the machines. They are setting on my work table in plain sight. I bought the last machine at his insistence after having problems with the Singer. I was trying to teach my daughter on it and we were both getting aggravated and my husband suggested I go over and see if my repairman had another machine. The question was should I tell my husband I found the problem with the Singer and it was as simple as Singer put the wrong bobbin in the accessories with the machine. He won't be upset but I felt dumb. I thought it might help someone else not to trust what accessories with a machine as fitting the machine. The machine is still under warranty I only bought it in December. I needed to see if it needed to go back or if it was me who could not work the machine. If I decided to sell it I would tell anyone that I was having problems using the machine. I don't know where half the replies came from. I'll make sure I don't ask anymore questions or try to help anyone. Probably won't bother reading this site anymore think I can do better on my own.