I agree allso, especially when it's a well known brand. I purchased some black Kona, took it home and washed it 3 times and it never quit bleeding. I did return it to the purchaser and got my money back. They said they would return it to the manafacture along with the remainder of the bolt. That part was good, but I had to find something else, purchase it, wash it and waste time doing so. Oh, well, rant done.