SingerSewer, Yes, the 70 or 80. Plus if you are doing the FSL the sharps work better than the embroidery needles because it doesn't cut the stablizer so for the cone thread instead of the sharp size 11 needle that is recommended for rayon I use the sharp size 14 and it made so much difference. I got the Viking Ruby because I knew that I'd want the larger hoop size as well and I find that I'm using the 360 x200 most of the time; I normally put several designs in it to save time. I like the stablizer on the roll but it's a little narrow so I run blue painters tape along one side to give just enough width to it to make it stay in the hoop better and then put the clips on the hoop as well. Now I want to see when they have the next endless hoop class so that I can take it. The hoop is alot cheaper thru Amazon than at the LQS. I normally end up using my other machine to piece with as well.