I bought a Gammill Vision 18/8 with a 10 foot frame last June. I love it. I had a midarm prior so I had some experience. My friends started asking me immediately to quilt for them and I did. Mainly pantographs at the beginning and now I'm doing some custom work. I have been doing about 4 or 5 per month and that is all I want to do. I can't say I've made that much money because I continue to reinvest in additional pantographs, rulers and thread. I took the money out of our savings to purchase (my husband got a fancy fishing Kayak) so I didn't have to worry about payments. I don't have much time anymore to piece which I also love so that is a negative. I have decided not to let others use my machine (I have been asked) because there is just too much of a learning curve with the quilting and maintenance and I think I would spend all my time helping them. Hope this helps.