Wow!!! have been reading all the threads, all I want to lose is 5 or 10 pounds I did look up the 17 day diet...here is my two cent...any diet that does not allow you to eat from all three food group is just a quick fix..saying that what if you started out on the 17 day diet to jump start you and then go on WW.. I like WW because fruits and vegs are all zero point... If after 2pm (who's idea was that, what happen at 2pm you turn into a pumpkin or something) you can't have fruit something is not right!!!think about it....eat healthy all the time and once in a while you can have a mac attack!! you know on WW you can have your Mickey D and eat it to.... 11 points for a happy meal and you get fruit will it...please don't kill me.