well, I shipped out the Jones Hand Crank to Kansas City MO and I sent the FW to Caroline in Seattle WA. Sure hope they are going to be going to the right people this time. I insured and tracked thru parcel post. was told it would take a week for it to get to their destinations. The one in MO started a paypal dispute so won't get pd thru paypal for shipping. she want to send a check and I wrote back I prefer either a cashier check ot a money order. Sure hope I get my machine and am not out my shipping fees. will definitely be watching so I don't order from her again.