Check ebay out. I bought my brand new Janome 3050 DC on ebay. It usually sells for 799.00 I got it for 400.00, shipped from the warehouse, no taxes and no shipping. I also have a Bernina, I think they are the best. They are expensive, but well worth it. A year before I knew I was going to retire, I bought mine. That was 3 1/2 years ago, and I am so glad I did. Best machine I ever had!!!