I guess I'm lucky. I have a tiny house, so I take mine over to my sister. She has our youngest sister's old fashioned floor frame. We set it up and baste it. It takes us about an hour and a half to baste a queen size quilt. Then I take it home and quilt it in my homemade hoop. I kept breaking the hoops, so I took the insides of the broken hoops, placed one inside the other and taped them together to make it thicker. Then I taped the outside pieces together the same way. No more broken hoops. I used the only tape I had at the time, which was black electrical tape. I have been using this "homemade hoop for around 10 years with no problems. I think i wound up using pieces from 3 different hoops. It looks a little wierd, but it works great.