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Old 07-17-2012, 06:57 PM
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Maggiemay
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I have a 1600P (P only, no other letters!) & it takes regular needles. I paid around $700 for it 4 yrs ago if that can help in your comparison. I do not have a frame so I can't help you on that. If new, I'd say a good deal, if used, not so good.
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