Thanks K3n - I shall give that a go later today. - machines become like quilts, you start by saying you want one old treadle cos you learnt on one as a girl and before you know it there are machines everywhere, in hallways, lounge, bedrooms, under beds and on down to the garage. I love their history and Queenie my Bebarfald Bluebird from the thirties pieces better than the latest big Janome 6600 quilter that I have.