I've gotten plenty of good deals off the goodwill auction site, and in the stores. paid 35.00 for my 99k in a cabinet, 5.00 for my white rotary bent wood case, 10 for my free westinghouse, etc. I think I've got 6 more machines off there plus a handful of other items. FW go up quickly because someone puts in their max bid, which might be 100+ and the next person has to bid over that to get the high bid, and since FW we all know go for way more than the other machines, people are going to be prepared off the bat to bid that high. They dont have as good a notification system as ebay does so people who bid there often know that they may get outbid and not know for hours, thus losing out on the chance to rebid a higher price.