I went to the thrift store. Picked up a bag with about 1.5 yds. Not a problem... BUT.. While I was there I saw a treadle machine with a vertical bobbin. It was in a desk. The wheel was free moving. but noticed that the bobbin might have been missing a part. It was 1/2 off, and would've been $35. I didn't buy it.. WHY.. I wasn't even afraid to work on it, and order what was needed. I have no room for it. I'm in a one bedroom apartment. I'm very sad about it.. I wonder if I should get rid of the big comfy leather chair hanging out in the corner.. Hmmm.. Am I a hoarder? Nope.. I need to be realistic. I have two machines out.