I do not have the ken's quilting frame. At one time I did have the Handiquilter Frame - which was also designed for domestic sewing machines. I had a Juki 98e (9 in harp) on the frame. I eventually threw away the frame. Even with the Juki, if you are quilting a queen size quilt, by the time you get to the middle of the quilt (or a little farther) you only have a couple of inches of room for quilting because the takeup arm is inside the arm of the machine. So if you were trying to quilt a block design you can not complete the entire design of the block in one pass. I found it to be too limiting.