I tested the sunshine 16 in GR at the quilt show, I really want the sitdown model too. I have a juki on a Grace quilting frame. I am lousie on quilting on a regular machine without a frame, so don't know if the HQ would be good for me or not. I can't remember what the cost was at the show cuz I tried all the models but free shipping if ordered within 30 days of show. I would have to get rid of my grace frame. the 16 was $1700 alone to fit on my frame. The only problem is you would have to use a footpedal and I can't find a way to get around that. now I have a HQ handihandles that I have a off/on and speed control.... questions/questions LOL