Yosemitesa followed your instructions already but then it was followed by laughter, thanks! It was really easy I just read your post, took me back a few years when my 2 boys were growing up, so funny, and yet he did exactly what you wanted. Now I know where that "be careful what you wish for" comes in. Really sorry about your ring though, that sucks!! Are you other 2 awake yet this morning or are you sleeping in? 10:30 last night I thought I was going to die I was so tired. Gave it up. Now today have about 16qts. of tomatoes to do, then done. Froze again last night and the high here today 29, can just hardly wait!! Snow all melted but more on the way.....great. NOT