Joe - I passed on one last weekend (I think it was the full sized rotary version, though, and it had some pin rash) that was in working shape for $25 or $35 (don't remember which.) The only reason I contemplated it was that the case was beautiful! Really I think the case was prettier than the Frister & Rossmann's. Big beast, though. I think we're going to concentrate on hand cranks and bare treadle heads for a while