I have an 830 Record. Was my first machine after using my mother's Kenmore. Boy was that heavy!!! Wanted something that wasn't so heavy to take to a class and I had been reading posts about Bernina. I friend had one also. I bought second hand and that was alright with me. Since then after reading the "vintage machines" thread I have bought a FW. I love both the Bernina and FW. Mother's machine will wait to see if one of the granddaughter's want it. I will have to show them a lot of things as they don't sew anymore in school.