Thanks everyone. Tashana I'll be waiting for your review. I'm not in a hurry to buy. I have read too many bad reviews about customer service on a Tin Lizzy while still under warranty, I'll pass on that brand, especially a used one. I have used a high end Gammill so know the limitations of the less expensive ones. Heck, I like my John Flynn set up and do pretty good on it. Just in the mood for something new and a step up from that.