i brought a handi quilter 16 from a store for $7,000.00 the amount i was putting toward a new advante 18 on lay -a -way oh i had been putting money every month and i had $7,000.00 total ,so the sale man called me one day and he told me that he had a trade in that came in and he could sell me that on instead,he said it was in good working condition hardy used ,and me thinking oh right what a good deal, i ask him dose this quilting machine come with the studio frame and he yes the only thing is that it,s a 16 and not a 18 advante but everything eles is the same .boy was he wrong the machine was 5 years old and with a table frame ,make a llong story short it works but i felt cheated for the price he sold it to me for a used machine ,im so glad he dose not work in that quilt store anymore,iam a very unhappy customar will never never buy from then again not in my life time ,so be very care of who you buy from