Littlebear, I had not come across that page, and I learned alot. Ty! Do you happen to know when the Singers began having the reverse feature? Reverse would be nice to have, but not a deal breaker for me, because I quilt almost exclusively, and reverse is seldom used. I don't think I'll need zig zag or other fancy stitches, so I don't think a 1960's machine is for me. I wouldn't mind having an older treadle machine which has a motor added, and which could be powered either way, but again, not a deal maker/breaker for me. Thanks for the info on those other machines---that was something I was wondering about.