i think the grand-baby thing might have worked a couple week-ends ago, but i'm back home and my dgd is in texas. by the time i get the air ticket and get there it may be past the 9th, but if y'all don't mind waiting for me, i will let you know as soon as she has it in her sights and is ready to start tearing, that should be the 14th, since i need 2 weeks to get the better rate. leave me a pm with your phone number so i can call you when it's time ! you guys are the best!! probably, afternoon to early evening on the 14th........ thanks for waiting with me!