Guess you guys just have sharper taste buds than us older folk (70s). I made a fresh apple pie yesterday, lattice top crust, using a new pie crust recipe that I got from GH magazine and my husband really loved it. The apples were Cortland and Mootsu (not sure of the spelling). We got them in PA when we traveled there a couple of weeks ago.
As for icecream, the best "no sugar added" is Blue Bunny (in any flavor). It is just exceptional. However, it does have more fat content, I think. We do love it.