I think I have every kind and size of hoop, frame, gadget available for handquilting. I've earnestly tried to use them and I just can't get comfortable using ANY of them. I find my stitches are smaller and more even without. I use a size 11 between and a good thimble and get 10 consistant sts per inch. I took a handquilting class when I wanted to begin handquilting and my teacher tried to get me to get comfortable with some kind (ANY kind) of hoop or frame but I just couldn't get the hang of it. All it was doing was frustrating me and making me not want to handquilt. I showed her some of my work recently and she says it's show worthy. Moral of the story: There is NO rule that says you have to do ANYTHING one way. Do whatever makes you comfortable and happy and enjoy the ride!