I have a couple of oak shelves with the rod under the shelf to hang quilts on, a quilt rack in my bedroom. I put a sleeve on mine. My ceilings are 11 ft. 8 in. In my sewing room I have one wall I can hang a queen size quilt on. I used large hangers like you would put on the back of a bathroom door to hang your robe on, then bought a closet dowel, and it rests very nicely on them.