Thanks, Maria, I appreciate your help. I'm not using the thread waste canvas. It's the plastic-like, very thin grid, so I'm hoping it doesn't make a big difference on the stitching. I was thinking that I should buy a light weight permanent stabilizer for the back of them, as they are for the International Round Robin, and they will be handled several times. I've never put cross stitch into one of my quilts before....and now I have all these different questions going through my head. :roll: