Thanks for all your support but I THINK things are getting better. Since I couldn't get a geek from the local store, that phone is always busy, sent an email to the main geek web site. Someone ended up calling me 10 minutes later, he remotely accessed my puter from where he is, got my printer working with an update download, got the docs that transfered patched so they could be read -- they were just gobbledegook before -- but said I had to go back to the store to have those geeks get the pix off the old hard drive. Oh well, at least I am functioning here. If worse comes to worse, and I can't get my pix, I may just use drawings to show you what I need done. Since I already posted that I was delaying until the 16th, I don't want to post now and have those that won't be back until Saturday not be able to find the posting.